Budget Committee Meeting
Non-approved Minutes
Monadnock Regional MS/HS Library,
Members present: Gary Bednarski, Dick
Bauries, Chair Jane Fortson, Robert Smith, Neil Moriarty, John Tommila, Stephen
Russell, Robert Mitchell, Eric Stanley, Terry Clark, Tom Parker, Neal King, Karen
Cota and Nancy Johnson. Absent: Don
Arguin.
Administrators Present: K. Dassau, Superintendent,
D. Hodgdon, Asst. Superintendent of Curriculum, T. Warner, Dir. of Technology
and L. Biron, Business Manager.
Principals Present: M. Young, K. Craig, J. Smith,
D. Mousette, S. Rashid, D. Dahl, B. Tatro and K. Carter.
J.
Fortson called the meeting to order at
Public Hearing: J. Fortson explained that she would open the Public Hearing to the audience. She explained that she would read the article and invite the audience to address that Budget Committee. She would ask that the person speaking identify themselves and the town that they live in. She would like to limit the comments to 3 minutes.
J. Fortson read Article One.
Public comments on Article One: B. Connell of
D. Mason of Swanzey, commented that we need to keep it going consistently and keep it running. We all pay taxes. He said that people paid taxes for me when I went to school and I will pay now. He made a comment asking if we want to become a Winchester Junior. He suggested cutting out the after school babysitting. He asked why we even have it. He suggested that the Budget Committee cut where they can but nothing that affects education. He said that the public told the School Board to cut MC2 and they didn’t. Why not?
W. Imon from
A citizen from
A citizen asked about the default budget. He questioned the difference between last year’s budget and this year’s budget. J. Fortson explained the increase in Spec. Ed. and the teachers increase. J. Fortson closed discussion on Article One.
J. Fortson read Article Two. Public Comments: No comments.
J Fortson read Article
Three. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked that this be explained. L. Biron
explained that based on the previous projects, the District would receive 55%
back from the state. He explained that the $230,925.00 does not affect taxes.
D. Bersaw from
J. Fortson read Article Four. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked if this figure was inclusive to the ins. L. Biron explained that it includes the step increases and negotiations. There is a savings of about $35,000.00 to the district because the teachers will be paying more out of their pockets. P. Bauries asked what the district pays for insurance. L. Biron said that the figure is in the 3.7 million range. P. Bauries commented that the savings is less than $35,000.00.
D. Bersaw asked if the contract has been signed. K. Dassau explained that the association and the Board have approved the contract. K. Dassau explained that if the contract is defeated all terms and conditions stay in effect.
D. Connell asked what the percentage is that the teachers would pay for insurance. J. Fortson explained that if passed it would be 88%-12%.
J. Fortson read Article Five. Public Comments: No comments.
J. Fortson read Article Six. Public Comments: No comments.
J. Fortson read Article Seven. Public Comments: S. Russell would like it clarified on who has the meeting. K. Dassau said the School Board. N. Moriarty called for a point of order. He said that the Budget Committee could still make recommendation on that article.
D. Bersaw asked why the meeting. K. Dassau explained that the intent is to give the School Board the ability to go and negotiate and talk about a new contract. N. Moriarty said that the number could not be changed at the deliberative session.
J. Fortson read Article Eight. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked what the list of health and safety issues were and if they were in dyer need. K. Cota read the list and explained that they were approved by the Facilities Committee. P. Bauries asked when the last time the buildings had the ducts cleaned. She asked about the cafeteria items on the list. K. Cota explained that the ducts have never been cleaned in about 40 something years. The cafeteria expansion was completed but there are specific items in the kitchen, which are safety concerns. P. Bauries asked if the duct cleaning was going out to bid. K. Cota explained that they would be getting 3 bids for anything over $5,000.00.
R. Tarbox asked if there would be a savings if they only did one school at a time. C. Dreyfuss said that it would be more expensive.
D. Connell asked what they are treating the ducts with. K. Cota explained that Servpro for instance would clean the ducts manually and there is no spraying involved.
J. Fortson read Article Nine. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked what the district spent over the past 3 or 4 years on architectural, engineering or design. Where are the reports and are they usable? L. Biron explained that they really have not spent any money. American Construction we did not pay. P. Bauries asked about the $60,000.00 that was funded a year ago. L. Biron said it was for the cafeteria and the possible fire walls to be constructed in this building.
J. Fortson read Article Ten. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked if the Board would explain why they are looking for a Facilities Director. K. Cota explained that the Facilities Committee has been working long hours. They would like to have one person in charge of all the facilities. The district has $42,000.000.00 in assets. This is the second most important cost. They believe that money could have been saved with this position. D. Connell asked if this position is independent or under L. Biron. K. Cota explained that this is a district position under K. Dassau. P. Bauries commented that the $70,000.00 does not include the benefits. J. Fortson said that she believes it includes the benefits. K. Dassau explained that the motion approved by the Board said salary only.
J. Fortson read Article Eleven. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked if this is for emergency maintenance. J. Fortson said yes. She explained that the $60,000.00 already in the account might be used for the new septic system. K. Dassau commented that is correct.
J. Fortson read Article Twelve. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked the administration to define this article. K. Dassau explained that for the last 4 years we have had the fund but in the past it was to come from an unreserved fund balance. There is about $54,000.00 plus in the account. He explained that the funds are now being asked to be raised. If they reach $200,000.00 the School Board and the Budget Committee may consider not funding the account for that year.
J. Fortson read Article
Thirteen. Public Comments: B. Bohannon asked if this is something like Reverse
911.
J. Fortson read Article
Fourteen. Public Comments: P. Bauries asked who we are not paying. L. Biron
commented that unfortunately it was an overrun from
J. Morgan commented that they owe the $210,147.00.
P. Bauries commented that a budget doesn’t get cut it gets decided.
J. Fortson read Article Fifteen. Public Comments: D. Bersaw asked if the article was saying that Monadnock would not tuition. K. Dassau explained that the Budget Committee and the School Board have no position on this issue. This is by petition. The first year it is exploratory and the second year is for a funding mechanism. K. Dassau said that it is to allow them to create a plan.
J. Fortson read Article Sixteen. Public Comments: No comments.
J. Fortson read Article
Seventeen. Public Comments: J. Carnie from
R. Allen of Swanzey commented on the low student teacher ratio to maintain. It is recommended that the students receive 4 years of English and the teachers have over 100% of the student body. The teachers are working between 52-60 hours a week. By cutting the staff is like taking a pick ax to the foundation of education.
R. Tarbox said that he does
agree with the comments on the English dept. He said that he works 50-60 hours
a week. He said that these are hard times for a lot of us. He said that he does
not understand the numbers but the tax increase will affect him. He said that
he works in a school district in
C. Tarbox commented on the home heating oil problems. She said that she does not want to see that staff cut. She commented on the money that the district owes on the deficit and commented that they should stay within the budget.
K. Blodgett of Swanzey commented if you increase education you will flourish.
M. Beauregard asked why parents and retired people should have to struggle. He asked the Budget Committee to look within themselves when deciding the budget.
D. Connell commented on an article in the Keene Sentinel. He commented that pouring double in and you do not get a better product.
D. Bersaw commented that the Budget Committee and the School Board are out of touch. The people are looking for cuts from last year. He said that the process of education needs to be more efficient.
P. Bauries asked if there would be more information regarding Article One. Article One should be explained before the Deliberative Session. S. Russell commented that this is a public meeting and everyone had the opportunity to attend. Now is not the time to scream that they do not know what is on the budget. It is a matter of public record. He said that the Budget Committee has been here for months.
P. Bauries asked if there would be something available before the Deliberative Session. J. Fortson commented that the Budget Committee went to all the eight towns and that meetings were not well attended.
MOTION: T. Clark MOVED to
allow M. Shepardson to speak. SECOND: R. Smith. VOTE: 14.93/0/0/1.07. Motion
passes. M. Shepardson commented that she lives in
MOTION: G. Bednarski MOVED to close the public session. SECOND: R. Smith. VOTE: 14.93/0/0/1.07. Motion passes.
Approval of Minutes: MOTION: N. Moriarty MOVED to approve the
2. Budget Committee Updates:
a.
Default Budget Subcommittee
Report: MOTION: N. Moriarty MOVED to disband the Default Committee.
SECOND: ??????VOTE: 11.20/1.32/2.41/1.07. Motion
passes.
b.
School Board Facilities
Committee Update: K. Cota reported that the Board met on
c.
Budget Oversight
Subcommittee Report: J. Fortson reported that they met on
3. Final Vote: Warrants and Budget: MOTION: T.
Clark MOVED to accept Article One as
presented. SECOND: K. Cota. DISCUSSION: N. Dion commented that
there are a few areas that there could be a savings. He said that he would like
to see something less than 6.7%. He said that he went on the State Board of
Education web site and reviewed the information on the number of students per
administrator. He said he compared other districts to Monadnock. He said that
MOTION N. Moriarty MOVED to accept Article Two as written. SECOND: N. Dion. DISCUSSION: K. Cota stepped out of the room. VOTE: 13.6/1.07/0/1.32.
MOTION: N. Moriarty MOVED to accept Article Three as written. SECOND: N. Dion. VOTE: 14.68/0/0/1.32. Motion passes.
MOTION: T.
Clark MOVED to accept Article Four
as written. SECOND: S. Russell. DISCUSSION: K. Cota returns. G.
Bednarski asked S. Russell if his wife works for the district. S. Russell said
that she did. G. Bednarski read the book of ethics. J. Fortson commented that
she thought it would be a conflict of interest. S. Russell withdrew his second.
K. Cota would now second the motion. G. Bednarski commented that this is being
dropped in our laps. K. Cota said that the Negotiating Committee did the
fairest and best job. They worked the best deal. They got an 88% -12%. It is a
move. It is a one-year contract. She said that they need to trust these three
people. G. Bednarski said that he does not leap that faith. He said that the
numbers do not add up. K. Cota said that the overall percentage is 3.1%. K.
Dassau said that the net effect of the budget is 1.43%. They receive $1,050.00
on step and $1,350.00 off step. The starting teachers move from 1 year to 2nd
year salary plus a step. G. Bednarski asked if they had a professional
negotiator. He asked who voted and who voted no. G. Bednarski said that this is
insulting. This is the best you could come up with. C. Dreyfuss commented that
she heard what the Budget Committee said through K. Cota and they tried to get
more. She commented that they went to mediation. J. Kenyon asked N. Moriarty
how easy it is to get the
Ten minute break. N. King leaves. G. Bednarski not present.
T. Parker did not include the $970,000.00 in his
motion on Article One. MOTION: T.
Parker MOVED to reconsider Article
One. SECOND: G. Bednarski. VOTE: 13.01/1.18/0/1.81. Motion passes. MOTION: T. Parker MOVED to move Article One in the amount
of $30,021,742.00. SECOND: G.
Bednarski. DISCUSSION: It was asked if
the number was correct. L. Biron said the number was now correct. VOTE: 11.46/2.73/0/1.81. Motion passes.
MOTION: N.
Moriarty MOVED to accept Article Five as written. SECOND: R. Smith. DISCUSSION: N. Dion said that this is very disruptive to the community.
When they say no it is no. R. Mitchell asked the intent of the article. L.
Biron explained that if the voters turndown this article the School Board has
the opportunity to renegotiate for a better deal and to reconsider it on a
further date. K. Cota commented that when the NEASC team come to do their
review it would be nice to have a contract in place. G. Bednarski said that a
contract would not make the difference. J. Tommila commented that to have a
meeting would require a court approval. J. Tommila said that he could not
support that article. J. Smith added that there is now a particular standard
requiring support of the community. VOTE:
3.58/9.38/1.24/1.81. Motion passes.
MOTION: K.
Cota MOVED to accept Article Six as
written. SECOND: T. Clark DISCUSSION: N. Dion asked if it was
the same insurance reasoning. K. Dassau said yes. R. Smith asked the figures
for the NH Retirement. J. Fortson explained the difference that the staff would
pay for the different insurance plans. VOTE:
2.34/10.61/1.24/1.81. Motion fails.
S. Russell leaves.
MOTION: K.
Cota MOVED to accept Article Seven as written. SECOND: R. Bauries. VOTE: 3.51/8.21/1.24/3.05. Motion fails.
MOTION: K.
Cota MOVED to accept Article Eight
as written. SECOND: R. Mitchell. VOTE: 12.95/0/0/3.05. Motion passes.
MOTION: N.
Moriarty MOVED to accept Article
Nine as written. SECOND: R. Smith. DISCUSSION: It was commented that we
have been doing this since 2000. K. Cota reminded the Budget Committee of the
process the Facilities Committee went through. The must, should and could list.
The Facilities Committee was very conservative. R. Bauries is concerned that
H.L. Turner told the Hinsdale Board that their building project is over the
budgeted amount. He commented that the $75,000.00 would bring in the
Taujmahall. He said that this is a blank check. He said that he would give
credit to the Facilities Committee, he would vote but he is not happy with the
amount. K. Cota said that they had meetings with H.L. Turner and they do not
want the Taujmahall. They want what they need. She said that they do not know
what they need. The Facilities gave direction and he said this is what it would
cost. VOTE: 12.95/0/0/3.05. Motion passes.
MOTION: K.
Cota MOVED to accept Article Ten as
written. SECOND: R. Mitchell. DISCUSSION: N. Dion commented that it
should say salary and benefits.
MOTION: N.
Moriarty MOVED to accept Article
Eleven as written. SECOND: R.
Mitchell. VOTE: 12.95/0/0/3.05. Motion passes.
MOTION: R.
Mitchell MOVED to accept Article
Twelve as written. SECOND:
MOTION: N.
Moriarty MOVED to accept Article
Thirteen as written. DISCUSSION: R.
Mitchell returns. VOTE: 11.88/1.07/0/3.05.
Motion passes.
4. OTHER BUSINESS: G. Bednarski gave J. Fortson his letter of resignation. N. Dion commented that he would miss G. Bednarski. MOTION: N. Dion MOVED to reluctantly accept G. Bednarski’s letter of resignation. SECOND: R. Smith. DISCUSSION: G. Bednarski gave J. Fortson information on the person the Troy Selectmen would nominate to the Budget Committee. T. Clark asked how many other people had the opportunity. G. Bednarski thanked the Budget Committee for their time. K. Cota asked why now before the elections and asked if it is a political move. N. Dion commented that the warrant article supports him 100%. VOTE: 6.81/5.07/0/4.12. Motion passes. K. Dassau commented that the Board contacted the selectmen about J. Morin’s vacancy. K. Cota said that it is more up front to notify the selectmen and then they talk to the town. J. Carnie commented that it has been discussed and they are nominated by the selectmen and the School Board would appoint. That is not what was on the warrant. He said that the School Board chose to do it differently.
K. Cota leaves.
MOTION: T. Clark MOVED to
adjourn the meeting at
Respectfully submitted,
Laura L. Aivaliotis
MRSD Recording secretary